Re: [FunBBGroup] BB Finale

by Crime Time Tamil on September 21, 2017

The thing is Jessica was on the outside and had a different perspective. Had she gone to jury, she might've voted for Josh as well. There is no way i ever thought Cody would vote for Josh, and he had said he would probably vote for Paul if he was at the end but as people came into the jury and he saw how Paul played, he changed his mind. Same with Alex. I think had Paul owned his game instead of still being defensive and trying to hide how he lied to people, he would've won. He gets a little too arrogant and cocky and i think it turns people off. Josh wasn't defensive...he explained his reasons for everything and was proud of it instead of trying to shift the blame to everyone else and then hide behind them. That's what made the difference in the end. Paul tried to get everyone to think he was trying to save them but in the end couldn't when the jury already put together that he was the one who decided each week who was going and everyone followed him. Right to the end he kept saying i tried to help people but i couldn't throw my game away for them as though he wasn't the one telling everyone who to vote out etc...and everyone knew he was still lying.

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From: 'Crystal Krantz' lovebarbie@roadrunner.com [FunBBGroup] <FunBBGroup@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Thu, Sep 21, 2017 12:55 am
Subject: RE: [FunBBGroup] BB Finale

I agree with all you said in your second paragraph, Natalie. I found myself going back and forth on who I wanted to win this past week, between Josh and Paul (when it came down to final 3). During the finale, I was proud of Josh winning the final HOH. And the momentum toward wanting Josh to win increased in those moments. I then heard Will talking to the jury (I think Will held back a bit in telling the jury how pathetic they were); I found myself wondering who should win. I thought Josh was pathetic earlier in the game and wanted him to go many times. But in the past few weeks, I started to realize that he WAS really thinking about the game, and even thinking that he should get Paul out (so why didn't he... the jury would have given him more votes if he made that move). He barely won. I found myself (after the voting was complete) start to want Paul to win again. Jury question, by jury question, I saw Paul's face be puzzled and worried that he actually might not win, when hearing what the jury was asking. Then AFTER everyone voted, I once again realized that Paul should have really won. As I saw the show approaching a final answer, I could see Paul's fear come to his face that he might not have this as "wrapped up in the bag" as he thought. Natalie said it right, that is, Paul in theory should have won. When Julie was reading the votes, I saw Paul start to realize with that sinking feeling that he could be losing. The last couple of votes he was just showing it all on his face... shaking his head "no, no, I can't believe this is happening." He did think he had the game wrapped up, and someone from the jury was right when they said "Paul didn't realize that they'd be comparing notes." So part of me felt really bad for Paul in that moment, knowing he probably should have won. I think the jury was shocked that Josh won the final HOH, and that may be the one thing that pushed a few that were on the fence, so they voted for him. Had Paul won the final HOH and taken Josh, might be a different outcome. Poor guy should've won, but then he didn't realize how he would be perceived and over-played.

As for Cody winning "America's Favorite Player", that one just has me floored. I feel somehow that Jessica must've had a lot of people voting for him repetitively. I think they only reason he could win over Kevin is that America despised Paul's gameplay and all the pathetic jury so much, that they gave it to Cody because he was the only one that was on to Paul. Certainly, America didn't vote for Cody because they like his personality... I think it has to do with those two things, Jessica's rallying and he was the only one that realized about Paul early on. It just kills me, and Cody even wondered why he won. It should have been Kevin. Really shaking my head over that one. I still think Cody is a dud with little personality and a hot head that is ready to explode.

I thought I was indifferent to who would win, but I feel bad for Paul now that he didn't. This is going to eat at him. Yes, a bit of a stung jury with a grudge. I guess I may have felt bad for Josh a bit too, if he had lost. But he did improve a lot the second half of the game... for a while people were just dragging him along because they knew he wasn't liked, but I think once each person went to jury and realized how they were played by Paul, they realized Josh wasn't so bad. Interesting that Cody's vote was what made Josh win, but good for Jessica for saying that Paul should be the winner because of how much he played everyone.

Crystal

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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:37 PM
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Subject: [FunBBGroup] BB Finale

I have very mixed feelings about tonight's winner and the outcome. First of all, i knew Cody was going to win AFP. I believe Kevin probably won second. I kind of figured Jason would be the third because people liked him until the rape comment and most people thought he got caught in a moment and didn't mean it. Also, most people who didn't watch feeds didn't know he even said any of it.I wish Kevin would've won it but i saw it coming. I'm just glad that Alex and Christmas and Paul and Josh now know that kevin was liked by us because they said if he won or was in the running, they would be furious. It had to kill them that Cody won and Kevin was in there too. And Christmas wasn't. Josh and Paul told her she would definitely win it. They were completely wrong on who would be AFP. I know Paul will go around saying he would've won it if he wasn't in the final 2 but i don't think he'd even be in the running. He's in for a rude awakening..not only did he not win the game, not only was he wrong on who won AFP, but he's going to find out that yes he still has plenty of fans, but he lost a ton.

As far as Josh winning...I think it was a bitter jury (but a right to be bitter). That's my mixed feelings. I think Paul in theory should've won. He was the true puppet master and he really did play them all and should've won. His problem was how mean he was. Alex kind of said it best, she voted for who stabbed her in the front (Josh), instead of who stabbed her in the back (Paul). Josh said things to people's faces, and Paul pretended to be people's friends and talked horribly behind people's backs (not game, actually mean personal remarks to make people despise the person). He isolated and encouraged everyone to isolate people and bully them. He had VERY poor jury management. And let's face it, Josh got him with the goodbye messages and Paul was shocked at that. But he had no right to say that Josh put the blame on him, that's exactly what Paul did to Josh and Christmas all season long and expected them to just do what he said. I know Paul is confused and upset and mad...but he may have played a great game, but at the same time he played a very bad game. He played a very mean game and people in jury do compare notes. It's not that he tricked them...that is the game, it's the viciousness of it. It's what he said about people and then people found out he said those things about them too.

Ultimately I still think Paul should've won, but there's a part of me that's glad he didn't.

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